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. your other pick? >> paul ryan. >> yeah. >> obviously, as a democrat, somebody i'm watching for a long time. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. and i think that, you know, he has a lot of opportunity this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing a lot of introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics of this country and an opportunity to step up. >> how does he do it in the house? >> he is a leader in the house and known as ideological. this is an opportunity to open it up a little bit. >> kevin, you picked with the big two. >> yeah. well, i think marco rubio is one of the people i picked because i think to perry's point, people looking for a new diverse voice inside the republican party and i think whether he likes it or not, he'll be a national figure in that regard and going to sort of be emblem attic of the republicans' abilities and effort to reach out to newer audiences and they're also looking for people that are going to represent the future of the party. many conservatives will use i think marc

overtake him is paul ryan. there's really no indication that paul ryan wants to go against john boehner. in fact, from all the reporting that we've done, john boehner and paul ryan seem pretty close, even though they have differed on some things. it seems orchestrated, to be honest, and to give paul ryan potentially a chance later on maybe to be speaker when john boehner leaves. >> one more question for kristen. what happens to other issues like gun control and immigration? which one of those in particular would the president most likely top his agenda with? >> well, i think gun control right now certainly has been taking up the majority of the president's focus in light of the tragedy in connecticut, so what's interesting is several weeks ago we would have said immigration, but gun control has certainly moved up to the forefront. i think immigration is still going to be a big issue on president obama's policy agenda in the new year, but i do think gun control is going to be right up there with immigration. melissa? >> kristen, thank you. >> what do you think? >> i really think immigrat

with democrats. that's going to be interesting. and your other pick? >> paul ryan. you know, obviously, as a democrat, it's somebody i have been watching for a long time. mitt romney's running mate. i think he came out of this race with a good reputation. and i think that, you know, he has a lot of opportunities this year. he's known as a reformer in the party. the republican party is doing a lot of introspection of what they need to do to address the changing demographics in this country and he has an opportunity to really step up. >> how does he do it in the house, which is more difficult? >> he's a leader in the house and he's known as being idealogical. >> kevin, you picked -- you got the big two. >> marco rubio is one of the people i picked because i think, to perry's point, people are looking for new diverse voices inside the republican party. i think whether he likes it or not, marco rubio is going to become a national figure in that regard and he's going to sort of be emblematic of the republicans' abilities and their effort to reach out to newer audiences. and they're also loo

to love that, right? >> what's up gangsters? >> the next president of the united states, paul ryan. >> my veins run with cheese, bratwurst, a little spotted cow, leinie's. >> we will have the first permanent base on the moon. >> any old girlfriends here? >> maybe i should just do all the talking. >> i love you, ladies and women. >> i love you, women. >> binders full of women. >> today has been awesome, girl. >> whoa. >> i hope i am the tim tebow of the iowa caucuses. >> it's bull [ bleep ]. come on, man. >> okay, libya. >> come on, man. >> becky-stan. >> do you think reverend wright is off limits in this campaign? >> it's called romnesia. >> worst republican to put up against barack obama. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. >> oops. >> i can't be perfect. >> we don't need a ma'amby pamby leader. >> pumping a little iron. >> i got bit by a penguin. >> those small animals can be fer row shis. >> the naacp invites me, i'll go to their convention. >> i prepared a small chart here. >> arithmetic. >> it would take me too long to go through the math. >> stupid people are ruining america.

john boehner is a paul ryan, and really he hasn't expressed interest. >> going on to say we have a republican party today willing to eliminate any prospect for decent future for anyone including itself. if it cannot abe future that is 100% in accordance with its core beliefs and principles that's not governing. that's lobbing hand grenades. if you are only stabbeding on principle to appear taller, then you appear smaller, and the gop is shrinking daily before our eyes. if leadership casting vision, calling all your people to rise up, and we just watched what happened with lan b and speaker boehner trying to call his people to rise up, and you say his leadership really not in question unless paul ryan really wants it. do you think that people having these types of perspectives, like a mark mckinnan, that doesn't really ring true coming into the new year for speaker boehner. >> look, the problem for republicans and for moderate republicans like mark mckinnan is most of the people in the house are not of the mark mckinnan stripe. these are people who are from districts where they've

of right where people like paul ryan are yeah, we'll go along with that while raising spending on defense. so john boehner put the entire ideological kit bag of the republican party on display, and they couldn't even vote for that. at the end of the day, at the end of the day, now they're going to get nothing. because all the taxes will go up after the fiscal cliff. >> but hold on, because i think you're being too triumphant about this. the truth is you're right. democrats right now are probably winning the fight on taxes. >> definitely. >> but you know what? but the truth is the republicans are winning the fight on spending. because you know what is going to happen on january 1st? we're going to get that sequester. and i guarantee you, liberals are going to scream bloody murder about the cuts. the cuts are very significant. >> how harmless in the sequester are all of the entitlement programs. defense is going to get a $500 billion cut. >> that's true. i hate to see it. >> you know what? that actually is the only way you're ever going to cut defense. and they held harmless to most america

. >> not only that, boehner was smart in bringing cantor and mccarthy and paul ryan into the fold when he introduced plan "b." did he that strategically so it looked like a united front. he still got undercut. he will probably be re-elected speaker but he is a much more ineffectual speaker after what happened. >> sam, give me a snap prediction. what do you think the president will say in the briefing room today? >> he's going to wish everyone a happy new year and then say -- i don't know. i have no idea. things are changing by a minute-to-minute basis. i have a guess he will probably say this ball is now in the senate's court. he's going to encourage them to get something done and put the weight of the presidency behind it. >> okay. thanks sam stein and robert costa, appreciate that. >>> coming up, will 2013 become the year of the perpetual fiscal crisis? when will businesses say enough? in case you haven't noticed it, the dow has been slipping as we korean toward the deadline. if we go over the cliff, are we looking at a potential -- next week? >>> we'll provide live coverage of presiden

that mitt romney chose paul ryan as a running mate. who did you think you would pick? >> -- who did you think he would pick? >> that is a very good question . good questiontim pawlenty -- good question. i thought tim pawlenty. running in these national races is really hard. i remember the day that -- we were leaving denver after the convention and we learned that, on the airplane, mccain had chosen sarah palin. so went to the front of the airplane to senator obama and senator biden had been newly selected as his running mate. he said i think i am reasonably smart. it took me like six months to figure out how to be a presidential candidate, how to deal with the stop light, how to deal with the national politics. she may be the smartest politician ever and she may be able to come out of alaska to handle all of this. but i will give her three weeks. three weeks to the day, she did her interview with katie couric, which effectively ended it for her. [laughter] i thought that they might make a conservative choice, someone who had at least a taste of the national stage or, which was more of a

is in power, if paul ryan was enacting his budget, we would be raising the debt ceiling right now. and he, too, would have a problem with this group of people. >> you know, there's a front-page piece in "the times" either yesterday -- or maybe today, i'm not sure. i lose track of my days at my age. >> what age is that? >> indicating that the power of the tea party within the house -- >> yeah. >> -- has been diminished somewhat because of the elections. do you agree with that? >> yes, but they still have enough numbers to affect the course of legislation. what happened with john boehner right before they departed where he couldn't get that plan "b" vote passed was amazing. to have a rebuke like that of the speaker of your own party over something that was relatively minor in scope. i mean, he could have had the grand deal. he went back and said, i need this for my own political benefit. we need to get rid of this issue that we're holding everything hostage to protect millionaires so that we can negotiate from a better vantage point. please trust me with this. and he went to his caucus with that

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